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9Marks Explained : A Letter From Mark Dever

Why You Can’t Change Your Church (Part 1 of 4)

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Seems like at least once a month I get an email from a church member—not a pastor—asking how they can change their church. Not “change” as in printing the bulletins on different paper, but as in reworking the church’s leadership structure and membership practices. Should they give the pastor some books? Call a meeting? Start a study group?

If you’re in this situation, what can you do? How can you change your church when you’re not the pastor?

The short answer is, you can’t. If you’re not the pastor, you can’t change your church. Really. I mean it. No surprise retraction waiting in the wings.

Now, I’m a congregationalist, so of course I believe that a church can—and must—fire their pastor if he starts going where the Bible doesn’t go. The pastor doesn’t have final authority; the congregation as a whole does.

But apart from those exceptional times, if you aren’t the person who is formally charged to preach the Word and lead the church, then you can’t change your church in any fundamental ways. This applies almost equally to a pastor who is not a church’s primary preacher. (I’m referring primarily to “the pastor” since most churches only have one.)

WHY YOU CAN’T CHANGE YOUR CHURCH—OR YOUR PASTOR

Why can’t you change your church if you’re not the pastor? Here are four reasons.

1. The Word Works Change

God’s Word is what enlivens, empowers, illuminates, and transforms God’s people. God’s Word is what works change in the church. This applies as much to worship practices and leadership structure as it does to personal holiness.  

Therefore, the preaching the whole church hears every week is the most important force shaping the church. The pulpit is the fountain of change. If you don’t have charge of the pulpit, you simply can’t lead change that will affect the whole church.

2. Influence, Office, and the Ministry of the Word

God has commanded churches to submit to—to trust, to follow—their elders (Heb. 13:17; 1 Pet. 5:5). By their teaching and godly character, elders are to serve as examples to the flock (1 Pet. 5:3). Their faithful biblical exposition and godly, transparent lives are meant to multiply their influence and authority in the church.

In other words, when the Holy Spirit appoints elders in a church (Acts 20:28), it’s as if he puts them up on stage in front of the church, shines a spotlight at them, and says, “Follow these men!” So if you’re not one of those men, why should the church follow you?

More than that, if you’re trying to lead the church in a different direction than its appointed leaders want to take it, why should the church trust you instead of its own elders? In this case you’re working against the grain of how God wants the church led. You’re grinding the gears God has set up for directing his people.

Is that kind of gear-splitting reformation ever justifiable? Of course. But don’t be too quick to invoke Luther.  

Instead, recognize how God has tied together the office of elder (pastor), the ministry of the Word, and pastoral influence. If you’re trying to lead a church in a direction its own elders don’t want to go in, that’s likely not reformation, but divisiveness.

3. You Can’t Teach an Old Pastor New Tricks

Third, you can’t teach an old pastor new tricks.

Of course a godly, humble man will continue to grow and learn. And once in a long while, a seasoned pastor will undergo a philosophical transformation. But most pastors’ views on matters such as preaching, leadership, and church structure are not exactly up for grabs. And if the pastor’s position isn’t going to change, the church isn’t going to change.

This is often a function of the limits of pastoral imagination. If a Southern Baptist pastor has only ever heard Presbyterians calling church leaders “elders,” you’re not likely to convince him that it’s biblical. He simply can’t imagine that that’s right. And if a pastor has never been part of a church that took membership seriously, then “cleaning up the rolls” is going to seem about as advisable as swatting a hornet’s nest—all pain and no gain. He can’t envision the goal on the far side of the mess, and so he isn’t compelled to drive through the mess to get there.  

Many pastors do ministry the only way they know how. It’s the only way they were trained, the only way they’ve seen modeled, the only way they trust. So, in general, you can’t change your pastor. 

4. Absalom at the Gate

Finally, let’s say that after giving up on trying to change the pastor, you still try to change your church from your place in the pew. What will the harvest be?

I’d suggest that whatever you do will almost inevitably have a dual effect: in some measure you will undermine the leaders and divide the church.

Let’s say you’re well-loved in the church and are, informally, an influential leader. If people start to latch on to you and your ideas, that will undercut their trust in, affection for, and loyalty to their pastor(s). You’ll be Absalom at the gate, winning the hearts of the people away from his father David. Regardless of the professedly righteous merits of your cause, you’ll be undermining the man or men whom the Holy Spirit has appointed to shepherd this body.

And, you’ll divide the church. Since to agree with you is to disagree with the pastor, you’ll leave people no choice but to split into factions. Instead of reforming the church, you’ll be incubating a church split.

EXCEPTIONS? NEXT STEPS? NEXT THREE ARTICLES

Are there exceptions to this? Of course there are, though most of them prove the rule.

And if you’re a member of a church that sorely needs reformation, is there anything you can do to help it in the right direction, non-pastor though you are? Of course there is. I’m saying you can’t turn the ship around 180 degrees. I’m not saying you can’t work for lesser, incremental change or try to gently influence your pastor.

I’ll take up those points, Lord willing, in three more articles in the next week.

For now, just put the church reform gun down, walk away slowly, and no one will get hurt. And then go thank God for your church, even though it needs reformation, just like you and I do. 

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Thanks for writing this insightful post Bobby; I really, really needed it.

small question:
(I agree that the pastors weekly preaching is the greatest shaping force on the church-- , what would do you think is the #2 dominant force shaping a church?)

Taylor,

Good to hear from you. I think the second most significant factor shaping a church is who the members are, and what it means to be a member. The members, after all, are the church.

If a church's members are regenerate, Bible-obeying, humble people, then they will, generally speaking, be willing to obey Jesus and follow their leaders even when that means going into new territory.

But if a majority of a church's members attend infrequently or not at all, don't submit to Jesus as Lord over their lives, and have at best a sentimental attachment to the church and corresponding sense of entitlement, then the first thing you have to change before anything else is the membership. By that I mean both moving toward meaningful membership, where the church's rolls correspond to who's actually there, as well as discipling church members toward greater maturity.

I hope that helps!

Bobby

Bobby, I think you might need to read some of Mark Dever's excellent books on ecclesiology. You are mimicking the unbiblical position that modern evangelicals have swallowed who don't know there was a Reformation dealing with this issue a few hundred years ago.

Glen, I may not be as well read, so I failed to see what was particularly unbiblical in what Bobby wrote. Would you care to expand on that? It's a serious charge to make.
If what you say is right, it seems surprising that it was posted on 9Marks of all places!

Glen, Bobby works for 9Marks Ministries, the very site we are on right now, which is based on Dever's book. Can't confirm, but I'd bet that he's ready everything Mark has written on the subject. That would just make sense.

Bobby, what do you mean by you are a "congregationalist"? Do you mean the congregation should be active and participatory in life of the church or do you mean the congregation is in charge by means of voting on everything and the elders/pastors are just supposed to follow the direction of the congregation?

Michael,

Good question. By "congregationalist" I mean that the local congregation as a whole is responsible for church discipline (and by implication membership) and for sound doctrine (and by implication choosing its leaders). In other words, when it comes to deciding who's in and out, and what the standard of doctrine is, the local church as a whole is finally responsible, and that responsibility should be reflected in the church's regular processes. E.g., members should be admitted to and dismissed from church fellowship only by the express consent of the congregation as a whole. To put it bluntly, by a majority vote; see 2 Cor. 2:6.

In no way does that minimize or contradict the leadership role of the elders. I see elder leadership and congregational authority working together rather than being at odds with each other.

Here's a post I did on submission to elders in congregational perspective: http://www.9marks.org/blog/how-congregations-authority-submit-elders

And here's one I did on what elders' leadership should look like in practical terms:
http://www.9marks.org/blog/elders-lead

I hope that helps.

Blessings in Christ,

Bobby

So if you aren't a "pastor" your options are 1. shut up and sit down; 2. Get up, leave and "go to church" somewhere else or 3. Work to get the pastor fired.

I am not saying you are wrong. I think you have accurately depicted what is the reality in much of the church. I am suggesting that while what you wrote is accurate it is also terrible wrong.

Arthur,

I wouldn't quite put it like that.

My second and third posts add to your list and, I hope, render the picture a little less bleak. Here are links:

http://www.9marks.org/blog/when-can-you-change-your-church-part-2-4
http://www.9marks.org/blog/how-change-your-church-part-3-4

Also, keep in mind that throughout this series I've been careful to talk about "fundamental" changes. In most circumstances a church member can't singlehandedly overturn fundamental convictions of the church and its leaders regarding leadership structure, worship, preaching, and so on.

But that doesn't mean that there isn't a wide world of incremental ways a church member can work for good, as I discuss in my third post.

Blessings in Christ,

Bobby

Nice work, regards

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