Pastors Talk

Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.

Pastors Talk

On How to Talk to Your Church About Leaving (with Hershael York) | Pastors Talk, Ep. 159

By H. York, J. Leeman, M. Dever | 02.09.2021

How transparent should pastors be with their congregation as they think about pursuing other jobs? As it turns out, Mark Dever and Hershael York offer different counsel on this. Jonathan Leeman chats with them about the wisdom of different approaches.

On Chairing an Elders Meeting (with Isaac Adams & Ken Barbic) | Pastors Talk, Ep. 158

By I. Adams, J. Leeman, K. Barbic, M. Dever | 02.02.2021

What is an elder chairman? What do they do? Why is it a helpful role?

On Why Should I Be Baptized? (with Bobby Jamieson) | Pastors Talk, Ep. 157

By B. Jamieson, J. Leeman, M. Dever | 01.26.2021

Surely you’ve heard someone ask, “But pastor, why should I be baptized?” In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Bobby Jamieson about that important question.

Episode 156: On How Pastors Should Prepare their People for Eternity

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 01.19.2021

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about one of the pastor’s most important jobs: preparing his people for eternity.

Episode 155: On Remembering 2020

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 12.15.2020

In this final Pastors Talk episode of 2020, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about the highs and lows of this particular year.

Episode 154: On A Bunch of Fun Biographies

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 12.08.2020

Are you looking for books to read this holiday season? Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about a bunch of fun biographies.

Episode 153: On Caring for Members Unwilling to Come Back to Church (with Nathan Knight)

By J. Leeman, M. Dever, N. Knight | 12.02.2020

Among the many things 2020 has made more complicated, chief among them is caring for members who are unwilling to come back to church.

Pastors Talk, Episode 152: On Virtual "Church"

Episode 152: On Virtual “Church”

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 11.24.2020

For years, certain churches and ministries have referred to “virtual church” or “attending church online.” This year of COVID-19—the “anti-gathering virus,” as Mark puts it in this episode—has made such phrases even more popular. 

Episode 151: On How Much a Pastor Should Care About His Reputation

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 11.10.2020

Paul says pastors must be “well thought of by outsiders.” But Jesus says we’re “blessed” when others speak evil about us, even falsely.

What do we do with this? How much should a pastor care about his reputation?

Episode 150: On Cleaning the Membership Rolls – Part 2 (with Matt Schmucker)

By J. Leeman, M. Dever, M. Schmucker | 11.03.2020

Episode 149 explained what “cleaning the rolls” means, and why pastors should lead their churches to do it. Episode 150 continues the conversation, but focuses on how to actually get it done.

Episode 149: On Cleaning the Membership Rolls – Part 1 (with Matt Schmucker)

By J. Leeman, M. Dever, M. Schmucker | 10.27.2020

Some churches report hundreds of members, with dozens in attendance. These churches need to “clean their rolls.”

Episode 148: On How A Culture of Discipling + Lay Elders = Church Planting

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 10.20.2020

Healthy churches plant churches. But how? What causes a church to “bubble over”? Here’s one way.

Episode 147: On the Appeal and the Errors of Theonomy (with T. David Gordon)

By J. Leeman, M. Dever, T. David Gordon | 10.12.2020

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever chat with T. David Gordon about the errors of theonomy. They also consider why might it be appealing to certain Christians in our day and what pastors should do about it.

Episode 146: On Preparing for a Tough Political Season (Part 2)

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 10.06.2020

Mark and Jonathan chart about the new 9Marks Journal: Pastoring through Political Turmoil.

Episode 145: On Preparing for a Tough Political Season (Part 1)

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 9Marks Journal: Pastoring Through Political Turmoil | 09.29.2020

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk about how pastors can prepare their people for a tough political season.