Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.
Pastors Talk
Episode 144: On Lay Elders, Part 2 (with Klon Kitchen)
By J. Leeman, K. Kitchen, M. Dever | 09.22.2020How do you prevent a potential friction between staff and lay elders? How do you ensure they’re not just “yes men”? How much deference should non-staff elders give others?
Episode 143: On Lay Elders, Part 1 (with Klon Kitchen)
By J. Leeman, K. Kitchen, M. Dever | 09.15.2020Churches ought to have elders. Some will be paid (1 Tim. 5), but many will not. These unpaid elders are called “lay elders.” Is this distinction in the Bible?
Episode 142: On Preparing for the Next Guy
By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 09.08.2020Pastor, unless Jesus comes back before you get a new job, then your church will have another pastor—and at least one of your jobs as the current pastor is to prepare your church for the next guy.
Episode 140: A Conversation about Grace Community Church’s Statement on Civil Disobedience
By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 07.26.2020Jonathan and Mark chat about Grace Community Church’s decision, civil disobedience, and how Christians ought to approach this season with an extra amount of charity and grace.
Episode 139: Remembering J. I. Packer
By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 07.22.2020Jonathan Leeman asks Mark Dever to reflect on his friendship with J. I. Packer.
Episode 138: On What if I Don’t Desire to Pray (with John Onwuchekwa)
By J. Onwuchekwa, J. Leeman, M. Dever | 07.21.2020As Christians, we know we should pray. But too often, we fail to because we simply don’t desire to.
Episode 137: On What If I Don’t Feel Like Going to Church (with Gunner Gundersen)
By G. Gundersen, J. Leeman, M. Dever | 07.14.2020As a pastor, how many times have you heard a member tell you, “I’m so sorry we missed last Sunday—we just couldn’t make it with everything we have going on!”?
Episode 136: On Pastors and Social Media
By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 07.07.2020In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about how pastors ought to approach social media use.
Episode 135: On Shepherding: The Work and Character of a Pastor
By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 9Marks Journal: Shepherding: The Work & Character of a Pastor | 06.30.2020In this Pastors Talk episode, Jonathan chats with Mark about the new 9Marks Journal: On Shepherding — The Work and Character of a Pastor.
Episode 134: On the Difference between Revival and Revivalism
By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 06.23.2020In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan asks Mark to take a brief tour of church history so that pastors and Christians today can discern the difference between revival—a good thing—and revivalism—a bad thing.
Episode 133: On Why Should I Join a Church?
By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 06.16.2020Have you ever met a growing Christian who is self-consciously choosing not to join a church? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about the vital necessity of joining a local church.
Episode 132: On Teaching Your Church about Issues Related to Race (with Jeff Brown, James Miles, and Mark Vroegop)
By J. Miles, J. Brown, J. Leeman, M. Vroegop | 06.09.2020Should pastors try to educate their church about issues related to race and racism? If so, how?
Episode 131: On Pastoring Amidst National Trauma (with Garrett Kell)
By G. Kell, J. Leeman | 06.05.2020The past few weeks have been hard. People are grieving and angry, scared and confused.
Episode 130: On How Can I Love Church Members with Different Politics (with Andy Naselli)
By A. Naselli, J. Leeman, M. Dever | 06.02.2020Conversations about politics are often emotionally charged. We disagree because our consciences are calibrated differently. So how can we still love each other?
