Less than 20 years ago, Rosaria Butterfield was a tenured English professor, an activist, and a lesbian. Now, she’s a pastor’s wife, a mom, and a Christian.

What happened? It’s a long story, of course, but the summary is short: God interrupted her life and saved her.

In the years since, Rosaria has written on the subjects of identity, homosexuality, and the proper Christian response. She’s been a gift to the church.

Mark Dever recently sat down with Rosaria to talk about her conversion and its costs. We’re confident you’ll be edified by their conversation.