Journal Talk, Episode 3: What to Remember When It’s Going Well—And When It’s Going Poorly

Interview
08.18.2020

In this conversation, Jonathan Leeman chats with Ray Ortlund about what pastors need to remember when things are going well, what they need to remember when things are going poorly, and how he stays so “stinkin’ joyful.”

By:
Jonathan Leeman

Jonathan (@JonathanLeeman) edits the 9Marks series of books as well as the 9Marks Journal. He is also the author of several books on the church. Since his call to ministry, Jonathan has earned a master of divinity from Southern Seminary and a Ph.D. in Ecclesiology from the University of Wales. He lives with his wife and four daughters in Cheverly, Maryland, where he is an elder at Cheverly Baptist Church.

Ray Ortlund

Ray Ortlund is the lead pastor of Immanuel Nashville in Nashville, Tennessee. You can find him on Twitter at @rayortlund.

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