Pastors Talk

Pastors’ Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.

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Episode 136: On Pastors and Social Media

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 07.07.2020

Many pastors feel pressure from their members to speak up on social media. “Why aren’t you talking about ___________? Don’t you care?” In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about how pastors ought to approach social media use. * * * * * Read Jonathan Leeman’s article on this here. […]

Episode 135: On Shepherding: The Work and Character of a Pastor

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 9Marks Journal: Shepherding: The Work & Character of a Pastor | 06.30.2020

In this Pastors Talk episode, Jonathan chats with Mark about the new 9Marks Journal: On Shepherding — The Work and Character of a Pastor.

Episode 134: On the Difference between Revival and Revivalism

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 06.23.2020

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan asks Mark to take a brief tour of church history so that pastors and Christians today can discern the difference between revival—a good thing—and revivalism—a bad thing. 

Episode 133: On Why Should I Join a Church?

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 06.16.2020

Have you ever met a growing Christian who is self-consciously choosing not to join a church? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about the vital necessity of joining a local church.

Episode 132: On Teaching Your Church about Issues Related to Race (with Jeff Brown, James Miles, and Mark Vroegop)

By J. Miles, J. Brown, J. Leeman, M. Vroegop | 06.09.2020

Should pastors try to educate their church about issues related to race and racism? If so, how?

Episode 131: On Pastoring Amidst National Trauma (with Garrett Kell)

By G. Kell, J. Leeman | 06.05.2020

The past few weeks have been hard. People are grieving and angry, scared and confused.

Episode 130: On How Can I Love Church Members with Different Politics (with Andy Naselli)

By A. Naselli, J. Leeman, M. Dever | 06.02.2020

Conversations about politics are often emotionally charged. We disagree because our consciences are calibrated differently. So how can we still love each other?

Episode 129: On Principles to Consider as We Gather Again

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 05.26.2020

As churches move toward gathering again, there are lots of principles to consider. One of the most important—and one of the least talked about—is the difference between what’s a church and what’s not a church.

Episode 128: On When Elders Disagree (with Matt Schmucker)

By J. Leeman, M. Dever, M. Schmucker | 05.19.2020

What do we do when elders disagree?

Episode 127: On Character Matters (with Aaron Menikoff)

By A. Menikoff, J. Leeman, M. Dever | 05.12.2020

More than anything, God expects pastors to be faithful. An overflowing auditorium and an efficient church is no substitute for personal holiness.

Episode 126: On When Should Churches Practice Civil Disobedience? (with Bobby Jamieson)

By B. Jamieson, J. Leeman, M. Dever | 05.05.2020

When—if ever—is it okay to disobey the authorities God has placed over us? Don’t we have a God-given right to gather, even during COVID-19?

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Episode 125: On “What Should I Do Now That I’m a Christian?” (with Sam Emadi)

By J. Leeman, M. Dever, S. Emadi | 04.28.2020

You’re a new Christian. What’s the first thing you should do? Join a church!

Episode 124: On The Case Against Multisite in One Assembly

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 04.21.2020

Mark asks Jonathan to make his best case from the Bible against multi-site and multi-service churches.

Episode 123: On Why We Pick the Multisite Fight in One Assembly

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 04.14.2020

Jonathan’s new book One Assembly argues against multi-site and multi-service churches. What motivated him to write a whole book on the topic? Isn’t this much ado about very little?

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Episode 122: On Hell

By J. Leeman, M. Dever | 04.07.2020

Hell is real. It’s also difficult to talk about.